Showing posts with label Don CIrelli. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Don CIrelli. Show all posts

Thursday, June 16, 2011

More from Irma Grese

If anyone doubts that Irma Grese is our one and only Octopup, check out her latest. Traditionally, Octo, under its various personalities, liked to accuse Don Cirelli of well....look at the comment to this Letter to the Editor. You'll see.

It's encouraging to see that obesity is being taken seriously
Don, where do you find the time to comment and accuse other commenters of being racist in between your busy day of watching Maury and staking out convienence stores for young ****?

We expect the worse. **** is the Rep's naughty word default. As in ****tail and former Canton mayor Charlie Bab****

UPDATE:
Don Cirelli
Tell ya what, garden slug (a.k.a.) 'Irma Grese' - why don't you come out from under that rock use your real name while posting libelous comments in here? I got two words for ya, Honey: 'Alan Schulman'. Wanna play some serious ball? Try it again under your real name. This time it won't be the Sheriff who comes after your house.

Waiting to hear your reply Irma.

Wonder how long "Irma" will remain online? Only one person writes this crap now that the dime's dropped?

Update 2
Well, that didn't take long! Irma is gone. And, we bet she's gone from the Rep, too. You'll only find her comment archived here.


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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

Village Idiot of the Day, May 23, 2011: Just S tom

We love a good laugh and need to share this tete a tete with those who might have missed it. Since context is everything, we're including it all.

Yesterday under the discussion of a Letter to the Editor from Patty Graham, Ron Paul Stands for Preserving Liberty and Keeping Family Values, Don Cirelli and Just S tom got into a little tussle.

Majon punted to Cirelli:

Majon
Do you produce money or just collect it?

What have you ever produced?

Joined by JSt:

Just S tom
Don C is a victim...he has had a bad life. He sees success as something other people have because they are fortunate.

Success is out of reach for Don C and his people

"his people??????"

A strange remark about somebody who was able to retire at the age of 50 or there abouts and spend the next 30 years or more doing what he wants. But as veteran readers of Rep comments and I Hate Canton know, that's beside the point.

Cirelli responded rather good naturedly with:

Don Cirelli
'Don?

Do you produce money or just collect it?

What have you ever produced?'

...A useless commodity known as 'safe drinking water', most of the time. For five years, though, I totally wasted your money dispatching police cars, fire trucks, and paramedics to people like you, who didn't want, nor really need that service.

and

Don Cirelli
'Success is out of reach for Don C and his people'

LOL! Thanks for the chuckle, Just S Tom. Would love to compare savings accounts and assets with you someday.

Now it gets good!

Just S tom
Ok Don...my net worth is 7.8 million

There is really nothing more that IHC can add to this, so we'll close with Don Cirelli's sum-up. If you want to double check the accuracy his assessment, go to the IHC "Characters" sidebar at the right and click on Just S Tom. If literacy were a disease, he'd have been dead a long time ago.

Don Cirelli
Seven-point-eight million, you say, Just S Tom?

Hold on a second....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

So tell me, how does a guy who can barely string a sentence together make 7.8 million?

Ah, the magic of the internet. You can be anything you want to be, behind a screen name.

IHC adds special amen to Saturn 6: who wrote to JSt: Yer just farting out hot air, as usual

We'd love to find a list of Stark County millionaires to make a match. Yeah, right! In the meantime, simply for thinking anyone would believe you: Village Idiot of the Day, May 23, 2011: Just S tom.




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Thursday, October 1, 2009

Mary Parker and Don Cirelli Respond to Reppie Racism--Thread Removed

Last week featured some of the most virulent racist comments in the Rep we've seen for some time under the thread, now shut down, Housing Units Get a 3-5M Upgrade. We have posted them, at length, in our Village Idiot of the Day award blog above this one.

First, though, we wanted you to read Mary Parker's response, followed by a comment from Don Cirelli, to these posts. They were made specifically in response to remarks posted by "Joe McPott" and his use of the code word "they" to refer to blacks:

joe_mcpott
they, they, they, we ALL know who (they) are . And THEY know who THEY are, so cut the crap.!

joe_mcpott
Some one pick on me..................... im the one who said build THEM a prison compound out behind highland park !!!!!!!

RESPONSES

mary v parker
When you and the others refer to 'they' you really mean the Blacks that make up the majority of the inhabitants of these low income projects. You don't want to come off being perceived as a racist, so rather than say 'The Blacks ' are the 'freeloaders', you just refer to them as 'they'.

Blacks are the people one commentor was referring to when he/she said 'Tell them there's plenty of room in New Orleans.'

Blacks are the 'crackheads and prostitutes that another is referring too..

Blacks are the ones another commentor was referring to when he/she said; 'THEY just want to sit around on their big fat a$$ all day , smoke crack and make babies.'

Blacks are who they're referring to when some commentor called 'THEM' the 'stop snitchin' crowd', and the 'entitlement junkies'.


See Dave, others on here, like you, share a lot in common. You want to say 'Blacks' instead of just referring to us as 'THEY', but that way, you wouldn't be able to call me a racist.. You wouldn't be able to say that me and Don are stirring the pot, or playing the race card. How could you call me a racist if you were making racist statements yourself? You couldn't. You want to come out smelling like a rose, and claim you're not a racist.
Like you just said in your comment above,'The only reason you all don't like the list is becasue its 100% true.'. So who is 'YOU ALL' David?

You can agree with my comment , which says what YOU think, you just don't want to say it yourself.
You've never been good at hiding your feelings, about 'THEY' oops, I mean Blacks. I think your comment today is as close as you've come to being truthful about how you feel about Blacks. It's just better when Mary says it for you, right? Why get your hands dirty, when you can just play off of my comment, nod your head in agreement, yet still be able to say ; 'I didn't say that, Mary Parker, the racist , said it. I just agreed with her. That's not the same thing as saying it myself is it?' Yes it is David.

doncirelli
Right on, Mary! In fact, 'Joe McPott' finally came straight out and admitted he was talking about blacks after I called him out on it. That's how brazen he is with his racism. Racists are like roaches - the one thing they hate the most is a light shining on them, exposing them for what they really are. Clearly, much of the rhetoric in here is as racist as you would find at any Klan or Neo-Nazi gathering. If these folks aren't racist, there would have been no reason for them to point out the color of the people they were talking about.



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Thursday, September 3, 2009

Village Idiot of the Day, September 2, 2009: garylivick

Is it our imagination, or are things getting wackier and wackier at that microcosm of American culture, the Canton Repository? If we were Jeff Gauger we'd move back to Nebraska and open a corn farm. The fact is, it's becoming difficult to read Comments without a clothes pin on our nose and a butterfly net in our hand.

We accidentally took off a couple days. Accidentally, because we didn't intend to, but other business hearkened and we lost track of time. We actually thought today was Wednesday, until we looked at our calendar at the bottom of the computer screen. Anyway, we're beginning to feel like Junpei Niki, though we have no idea how we might adjust life deep inside the Reppie dune, and we have no intention of developing a love relationship with any of the delusionals--even to save our sanity.

For some reason we continue to be amazed at the Reppie insistence that Barrack Obama is the new Hitler and that the Democratic Party are the new Nazis (As far as we're concerned, every government is a small n nazi party, but that's another story.) Over the years we've ill-advisedly attended a few county Democratic meetings and they're as close to the Nuremberg Rally as an evening in McConnelsville.

Here's garylivick taking Don Cirelli to task for being a Demo (we've paragraphed to make the reading easier). And what's that odd comment at the end? Does Jesus speak through Rush now?

garylivick
Lake Local Should Stand It's Ground
Don, Thank you for proving my point AND exposing you for what you are! One, the Nazi Party was a SOCIALIST Party, which parallels the beloved party you currently represent! Two, the biggest 'posers' are those who attempt to restrict freedom of speech, the RIGHT to exercise religion, and PUBLICLY recognize their God. Fine subversive individuals like yourself, like to criticize, discredit, and attack those who OPPOSE their hypocritical opinions with twisted lies due to their own pathetic LACK of faith! You see, you remind me of other cult-like individuals. Even when FACTS are provided from folks here like bhodgkins regarding the Constitution, your liberal roots expose you for who you are! My young man, I would be glad to 'de-brainwash' you from the effects of your toxic government, liberalistic infatuation, and 'disease'.....but your case appears to far gone, and terminal! You need to find a better retirement occupation. Ever try golf? Fishing? Volunteering? Habitat for Humanity? Better yet........a 1 hour session with Rush might give you REAL faith that might 'SAVE' your soul.
Keep the faith, Brother!

Followed by the implication that Cirelli, a devout Catholic, is really an atheist AND a Nazi.

garylivick
No sane society would condone a Hitler based school system based on atheism........and YOU sir are the 'scary' element. Please share your negativity of teaching about the history of Jesus? Does Jesus 'Scare' you? I could not imagine why.........oh wait......perhaps your lack of belief, agnostic belief, or atheistic belief would perhaps be 'swayed' by learning history? As far as instilling values, ethics, morals, and accountibility to my kids through biblical principals....well let's say society will at least have some fine citizens. That's more than I can say about some of the undesirable element I see daily. And yes, I agree....I would not want a government entity teaching my kids. But unfortunately, since they teach sex education, and lies like an 'inconvenient truth', they might as well teach some morally proper history like that of Jesus, wouldn't you agree? But since you disagree regarding that, I'll assume you might be one with no faith.

Biblical "principals?"

There is just so much dreck to slog through today, we've decided to just go ahead and be done with it, rather than continue self-flagellation,. garylitvik is Village Idiot of the Day, September 2, 2009


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Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Village Idiot of the Day, July 20, 2009: Bummy

SARTA Wars continue. For now we're letting the buses go, but you can quote us: if our ancestors were as negative as our Reppies, we'd still be living in caves.

In the meantime, we have Bummy.

We've missed Bummy and welcome his/her return to the pages of the Rep and I Hate Canton. It's not everyone who can unite Don Cirelli and Wilda in a collective sigh.

Yesterday, Bummy informed us that the Apollo 11 moon landing never happened. He/she knows this because God would never permit the Terestial World to be invaded by wannabes from the Telestial World.

Russia Still Blue Over Moon Landing 40 Years Later
Bummy
Russia has got NOTHING to be blue about. We NEVER landed on the moon & never will. God is the One Who decides who will go to another one of His planets, not man & He NEVER has ,except for a very few people. Enoch was one that was permitted to & he went to a planet like unto or to the moon. The moon is a Terestial World while ours is a Telestial World, but will one day be a Celestial World. It is all in the scriptures 'IF' any one REALLY wants to know. :) Do you?

Bummy
The key in this story is,' it was a first for Russia'. That is exactly why the US pulled this farce, to make Russia think we did it before they did. Did the Russians believe it? Only those that were as dumb as those who believed it in this country. I was not one of you dummies that believed it then, nor do I believe it now. GOT IT? IT NEVER HAPPENED!

Bummy
It is not I that needs the protection. I KNOW the REAL TRUTH! Truth is soooooo hard for `1/2 wits to accept, but who cares as long as I KNOW? :):):) By 1/2 wits.

Bummy
alterego is a 1/4 wit 'cause he/she can not even understand english. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha:):):):):):):):):)

We've heard this claim before, that the moonwalk was a fraud, but it's usually tied to some deep conspiracy developed by the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and the Rothchilds to bring the US to its knees through One World Government. Bummy's explanation, however, zooms us from the political mundane into spiritual enlightenment. An a-ha moment!

I Hate Canton encourages new contestants, but we cannot let this old player fade into the cosmos.Bummy is already the recipient of 3 Village Idiot Awards, including a May 14, 2009 citation for the astute observation that political moderates are simply "traitors" by another name. A rose is a rose is a rose. But...

...for setting us straight on
the Terestial and Telestial Worlds and the Apollo 11 phonies, we are pleased to award Bummy another Village Idiot of the Day Award, July 20, 2009.

Keep up the good work!

Friday, July 10, 2009

Rep Down!

Just as we were culling yesterday's dross for the daily award, the Repository site went down. Emails are also bouncing. Perhaps the return of Octopup over the last few days, and the personal attack on Don Cirelli (below) made Editor Jeff pack up his newspaper and go home. We wouldn't blame him. It sounds like the Rep is having serious problems, and we wish its techies well.

We are not sure which thread the offending comment was posted under as it was sent to us privately without a reference. It may be the "Tea Party" story. We have paragraphed it for reading ease.

SourdoughSal
Don, I guess the childish homosexual reference leads me to believe you are not really comfortable with your sexuality! Anyhow, I do not know what you people wish to call yourselves-democrats, liberals, progressives, prolitariat? Remember the last 8 years? The protests? The rage? The indignation? Well, hold onto your hat but we are not willing to let our freedoms be taken away by your regime without OUR voices being heard!

By the way, I just wondered-if you B.O. followers want handouts, and everything down to your lightbulb choice decided for you,,,,,why don't you go to Cuba or Venezuela? The woman from the Democratic black caucus decided that Communism was not so bad because in her words 'they have ice cream!' So, instead of ruining the lives of 300 million people and dooming my child to a life of utter servitude, why don't you just hurry on down there. OK? bye bye now!

Just remember--no one has ever died on a boat trying to escape the US for Cuba!

We don't know if our gal Sal is an OP entity. Except for the first sentence (typical OP juvenela) he/she/it sounds too "intelligent," but a seeming lack of intelligence is an OC trick to throw us off the track. No matter! We are glad that Sal, who was given the June 22, 2009 Village Idiot award for declaring Hitler a leftie, is back splatting herself in the muck.

If Sal is reading this, be assured your child is welcome to serve his or her servitude under the strong hand of I Hate Canton. We'll give our little dishwasher every other Wednesday afternoon off to visit you in the crazy people's home.

Update: The Rep is up and running. We can't believe, however, that Sourdough Sal's disgraceful comment still stands. Where are the Rep moderators who are oh-so quick to remove inoffensive comments or comments from those who seek to defend themselves from vicious posters ? The comment is under Let's Get Specific About Lost Freedoms

Saturday, June 27, 2009

Vandals Shut Down Rep Comments

As you undoubtedly know, Friday night Repository executive editor Jeff Gauger pulled all Rep comments until Monday. Jeff posted on his blog at 6:21 PM:

I’m out of other options for dealing with digital vandals during our more lightly staffed periods, especially on weekends, until we are given an appropriately robust user registration and comment moderation tool.

We are in total agreement, though we think "vandalism" might be an insult to vandals.

Before they were pulled and later shut down, the following ugly comments were posted on Preschool Program Faces Ax from Possible State Budget Cuts. Numerous readers have forwarded them to us, and we are not sure in what order they appeared.

DRichard Les Weiner
I really wonder if we the citizens did the right thing in passing this levy for the handicapped. What will come of it? None of these people are ever going to be productive taxpayers to any real degree. Couldn't we cut costs and just have them babysat in large groups or something? They wouldn't know any different and they would still have something to do and it would cost a ton less dough. It is just throwing away good money.

In these tough times I really HATE to see CANTON taxpayers put on the SPOT as we waste there hard earned dollars on people with absolutely no future or potential. Just have them stay at home and we could eliminate mrdd alltogether. I know some people will post now about how awful this sounds but these are the same people who are always on here crying and wailing about everything and are begging for attention. So I would discount them entirely.

Dick Les & Marie Weiner

Richard Les Weiner
why dont we pass a levy for these kids like we did for the mrdd kids. at least maybe one of these kids will grow up and amount to something. the mrdd kids are just money wasted with no hope of ever amounting to anything. the govenor is DARRYLic in his duties to cut spending on real kids who might become somebody

and the indescribably despicable:

Richard Les Weiner
with that new levy passing . i think the mrdd kids could at least help out and pick up the horse poop during the parade. it could be used for fertilizer on a local grave of our favorite sympathy seekers kin

I Hate Canton is not surprised that comments have been suspended, only that it took so long. We realize that Editor Gauger has much better things to do with his time than monitor crackpots, trolls, and vendettaists,. We also believe he has no desire to shut down the paper's most popular feature. There is plenty of room for dissent, disagreement and argument within wide and normal boundaries of discourse. As Don Cirelli wrote on Jeff Gauger's blog today:

Joe Blow” has the right to call Don Cirelli a “damned liberal” if he wants to. He does not, however, have the right to falsely accuse other commentators of criminal activity or to use the forum to perform a virtual dance on someone’s grave. There are limits to everything, and since your paper is a private entity you have the right, yea, the duty to enforce them.

Newspapers have a duty to themselves, their readers and their advertisers to maintain the integrity of all. Newspapers have no duty to let their online pages be the cat box for the mean, the crazy, and the evil.

We look forward to the Rep's "appropriately robust" registration and comments section on Monday. Everyone needs a safe place to post without fear of being libeled or their families dragged through the muck by somebody's sick mind and spastic fingers. Although we don't know what the amended regulations are, it seems to us that the only people who would be upset by the Repository's new standards will those one or two or three people who write with shit on a stick.

Until Monday, we suggest you go over to read the comments on Jeff's announcement. Make make your own conclusions.

Sunday, June 14, 2009

One Trick Octo Makes Crazy Allegations; I Hate Canton Incites Public to Violence

Octopuppet is up to its old tricks again Not only has it racked up a week of unprecedented assaults against the Rep and its online readers, mainly through the Mammone murders and related stories, but it's accusing I Hate Canton of disrupting and "taking over the Canton rep." If so, we'd sure like a share of Rep revenue, and we'd love to have Charita Goshay and Tim Botos in our stable. Maybe Jeff Gauger could join us for an occasional guest blog on 'net civility.

Sunday morning, using the name "Sweet Kristin,"
Octopup accused I Hate Canton and respected long-time Rep commenters of "inciting hate and violence," making "violent threats" and carrying a vendetta against it--or somebody. The message is so disconnected and illiterate, it's hard to tell. I Hate Canton and associates are, according to it, a "vicious and dangerous group [that] should be looked at by local police."

I guess it told us!

I Hate Canton has made the big mistake in not archiving "Sweet Kristin's" past dollops to the Rep, though we did cite one the other day when she said she hoped the FBI would investigate Don Cirelli's "secret identity." One thing SweetK forgot: If Mr. Cirelli is posting under a "secret identity" then he is no different from dozens of other posters--including "Sweet Kristin"-- who post under "secret identities." If pseudonymously posting on a newspaper website is a federal crime, then, of course, it is most appropriate that the FBI investigate, if it already hasn't, "Sweet Kristin" and her entourage.

"Sweet Kristin" makes the odd claim that Cirelli's mother, former Ohio State Rep and current City Council member Mary Cirelli "controls" and "runs" I Hate Canton and is "slinging mud" at the Rep because she is jealous of do-nothing mayor Healy. As far as we know there is nothing to be jealous of Healy about, and Mrs. Cirelli gets along fine with the Rep. She also doesn't post on the Rep, so what she is really guilty of only her hairdresser knows for sure. Perhaps the FBI, when it is investigating Don Cirelli's "secret identity," can clear up the matter and take appropriate measures if mud is found on Mrs. Cirelli's Forzieris.

All this huffinpuff
is rich, coming from a pseudonymous entity who posts under about 60 (known) names, and has accused commenters, public officials, and political candidates by name of theft in office, drug dealing, pedophilia, and lately inciting violence.

It is rich coming from a pseudonymous entity that has cruelly demeaned and degraded Mary Parker's dead child and used the murder of the Mammone
children to fuel its little hate machine.

It is rich coming from a pseudonymous entity that has spread vicious gossip online about
Rep reporter Gary Brown and an infrequent poster.

It is rich coming from a pseudonymous entity that has accused I Hate Canton of "terrorism" and "slander," and threatened to call the police on us.

It appears that our earlier suggestion that Octopuppet
acquire a copy of Blacks' Law Dictionary to hone its legal knowledge has gone unheeded. It can't say we didn't warn it , then, when the cops, prosecutors and litigators boot its bottom out their office doors when they stop laughing long enough to pick themselves off the floor.

By the way, can anyone explain to us how an anonymous person can be "slandered." If the PV boot fits? But then that boot can dig up all sorts of unpleasant worms.

Below is "Sweet Kristin's" morning missive (typos and satirical impairment in tact). It appeared under Charita Goshay: Even with a Million Words It Can Be Hard to Communicate, Time to Stop Saying We'll Do Something about Crime, then Turning Other Cheek and reportedly another article whose name we don't know. The Repository staff has rightly removed them all.

Sweet Kristin

Part of the problem with our City government is the vicious group of haters that have taken over the Canton rep, online posting. This web site was meant to be a place for concerned citizens to voice their opinion on issues reported. It has been disrupted by the I Hate Canton Group. This vicious and dangerous group should be looked at by local police. It is not just a blog but a blog that incites hate and violence. This site is controlled by mostly people who live outside the city who are led by one local politican and her son and his cohorts. They will go so far as to stage phony posts to get attention.

Recently a women who ran for council at large posted a violent comment recommending a 'blanket party be held' to beat up someone they have been brainwashed to believe make a comment that they did not.

Cindy Vignos posted the following comment on I Hate Canton. ' Cynthia Vignos said...
I don't want to condone violence or illegal activity, but one has to admit that this seems appropriate:

Blanket Party = usually a reaction to a long-term annoyance brought about by one person, a blanket party is where an unsuspecting person is taken by surprise when a blanket is thrown over them and they are wrestled to the ground, then beaten with blunt objects by other members of the group.
...although it would be a shame to ruin a perfectly good blanket on the likes of her. June 12, 2009 8:54 AM'. Can one only imagine has she won the election what she would have done with her power. Thank goodness the voters of Canton did not elect her.

There are ring leaders on the site that the Canton Rep continues to allow to post. Don Cirelli has been disgruntled and will do anything to bring down the Mayor. Why--person vendetta because the voters chose the Mayor over his Mom for the State House. The Repository has allowed it;S online comments to harrass and threaten posters. I hold them directly repsonsible if anyone is a victim of harm due to there web site. This Mary Parker/.Don Cirell group must be stopped. I believe either one of these people would stop at nothing short of violence to get there own way The Repository needs to take alook at these people. They could care less about the people of Canton. There goal is hate and violence. How can this be allowed? I was taught years ago that if someones threatens a person take it that they mean it. The recents murders in Canton proves that to be true,


A very concerned Citizen of Canton

Kristin


Truth be told, we are bored with Octopup's
antics. They were tiresome in high school and they are tiresome now. So many real Canton characters and stories are much more fun.

We know some will disagree with us, but I Hate Canton believes that editor Gauger really wants to fix this mess. There is absolutely nothing in it for the Rep to keep this thing going. We look forward to the new comment system that may be coming and not soon enough. We also commiserate with Gauger and his drafted net nannies who are charged with dismantling the stink bombs Octo lobs at us all nearly every day. It's a dirty job trying to eradicate this vermin from the Internet, or at least the Repository's part of it.

I Hate Canton is not sure that ignoring Octo works, since if ignored, it just invents some more entities and sucks people into its sinkhole. Everybody, no matter what your politics are, when you spot an octopuppet making a really offensive ad hominem attack on a commenter, even if you don't like that commenter or what they say, flag it. Send a copy to Jeff Gauger and complain. Take back the marketplace of ideas offered by the Rep and return to lively, but civil discussion.


Thursday, June 11, 2009

Put on Your Gas Masks: Stinkbombs Lob Repository

On Monday the Washington Post published the transcript of a WaPo chat with Daily Beast writers Tucker Carlson (Fox News contributor) and Ana Marie Cox (Air America). Cox addressed the issue of a "private" blogger outed by a "public" blogger, aka "the Whalen episode" which had the blogsphere all awhirl last week. We are publishing a substantial part of Cox's comments below:

Ah yes, the Whalen espisode. I've written under a pseudonym more than you'd guess (HA!), and I think it's important to make a distinction between "pseudonymous" writing and "anonymous" writing. Anonymous writing, to me, means taking every care that no one knows who wrote the item -- or if the author has ever written anything else or ever will again. An article that is anonymously authored exists in a vacuum. An article written by someone who consistently identifies himself the same way (as "Publius") did is at least giving readers a way to engage/argue/fact-check/hold accountable. "Anonymous writing allows you to throw a stinkbomb and run away with no one having spotted you. Pseudonymous writing allows you to throw a stinkbomb while wearing a mask, but you can't run away.

Stinkbomb is the perfect word to describe what's been tossed at online Rep readers the last couple days.

I Hate Canton published one example yesterday--a malicious attempt by someone using the quite suitable pseudonym "cowardbehindascreenname" linking long-time poster Don Cirelli to accused killer James Mammone implying that Cirelli is a potential murderer. A couple months ago "another" poster suggested that Cirelli had an unhealthy interest in children.

Obviously, using murdered children to pursue a personal grudge has limited efficacy. Even the most wingnutty Reppie draws the line at some things. Fortunately, (for it) our ubiquitous vendettaist with more agendas than J. Edgar Hoover, has enough stinkbombs in its old kit bag to smell up the Rep for months unless it's caught and caged. We keep waiting for it to blow itself up, but like Jason (or is that the Energizer Bunny?) it just keeps going and going and going.

Here for instance, is a libelous comment about Mayor William Healy. Not that I Hate Canton rallies 'round the Team Healy flag, but, let's face it, if the writer had attached its real name to the allegation, it would be staring down the barrel of a libel suit:

Mayor owes Hawk, citizens an apology
zer0cool
REMOVED BY REP
I believe Healy is trying to attempt to hide who he really is from the public by promoting this Ethics thing. This is a man that probably cheats on his wife. Why should Canton expect this kind of man to be an honest and forthright leader? The self centeredness that some of you have noted about this guy is a bi-product of how he conducts himself within his private life. It's a known fact that this man is Coo Coo for CoCo Puffs. That's his real agenda. The Mayor's office impowers him so he can go to the hood and find what he likes. Why do you think rumors about this guy circulated in the first place? Someone who hes at political odds with knows this about him. During his campaign, it was not uncommon to see this guy hanging in clubs where you need to know how to 'Drop It Like Its Hot'. He's there to Pick It Up... Is everyone really surprised when it comes to this guy's political performance? I guess he's supposed to be like his Daddy was. Let me tell you; he aint his Daddy, but he has been known to be called Daddy... Wake Up, Canton and smell the coffee... Its burning!!!!

And how about this libelous attack on recently resigned Stark County Dem Chair Johnnie Maier:

Mandim
To PLeper..yeah, your're right except that... who will kill Canton off faster, Healy or DEMOCRATS. Stark County and Canton will ALWAYS be a 'good ol boys club'. NOTHING will ever change. Little Chicago is ALIVE & WELL; always has been. Petition for a new Mayor? That's a good idea except that, it takes time, effort and SMARTS. No one in this town has iany smarts. Where's the Dem Chairman at? Doesn't he think this is shameful? Shouldn't he be stepping in; or, perhaps, he's too busy having his head in a bottle. OOPS... DID I SAY THAT? As for the Rep, I think it's a great paper. I think they're only reporting the news. They just aren't thorough enough when it comes to the 'Good Ol Boys Club'. Who knows, perhaps they'll catch on some day. By the way.... in the words & music of the McDonald's theme........ 'I'M LOVIN' IT'. Going out on a limb here, I think 'YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET'.


This new intel on the sex mafia that runs City Hall showed up a few hours ago. Who knew City Hall was really a "gay and lesbian front" (for what?) and what in the world does Eric Resnick have to do with anything? Maybe he wasn't deferential enough to the poster at some Democratic potluck.

cbr
Is Healy and Herman an item-you never see one without the other-noticed they both act like they are a little light in the loafers.Is it true herman has a gay web site along with their pal resnick- The mayors office is being run over by the gay and lesbian front...hope this guy is a short timer-Pesqualic in akron is being recalled and he is at least a success-healy has done nothing and still gets to keep his job--forgot he has done somethings-kickbacks for favors-been linked to a underage female--spreads lies about hawk and will more than likely suffer a *** kicking from hawk..;...


Not satisfied with inventing actionable gossip, our anonymous poster(s) sent these veiled threats of FBI investigations of "the Cirelli's." Even a 5-year old would notice the similar "Lovin' it" language with "Mandim" "Canton Bachelorette" and "Sweet Kristin." Just sharin' the luv?

Canton Bachelorette
I also hear that 'anonymous' emails went to council members, candidates for council and other elected officials slamming certain city residents because No. 1 they are not dems and No.2 because of some jealousy thing. I hear that the author of those emails is about to get served civilly because of barking up a wrong tree. Unfortuantely, the plaintiff probably will receive no satisfaction because it is common knowledge that dumpy spends all her money on whiskey and expensive Virginia Slims. Lovin' it too.

sweet kristin
Hey Secret Idenityblackdaliaavengeroldfatdumpydoncirelli--Couln't find anything before huh. Maybe you can try again to create some dirt like maybe some letters. No boss has the right to curse at an employee. I worked in the office for 40 years and never heard any boss do this. You can use other means to disciple an employee.

I hope the FBI is taking a good look at you secret idenity. The rep should be ashamed to allow this mud slinging by the Cirelli's.


We don't believe for one moment that Jeff Gauger and the Rep find these antics amusing. Gauger wrote recently in his blog that he is looking into a new registration system that will stop much of this online harassment and abuse. In the meantime certain anonymous posters with unstable identities have, after a brief stay, once more gained the upper hand getting comment threads shut down just for the fun of it. And that's no fun for decent Cantonphiles who simply want to say their piece in peace. No newspaper should be the repository of hateful, vicious, vile remarks by anonymous people who get their kicks from hurting others.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Lower Than Low: The Mammone Murders as Personal Agenda

This is not about village idiocy. It is about hate.

In the last couple days, some very ugly comments have appeared in the Rep. They appear to be posted by the same person using different names, though we lack the ability to prove it. Most comments have been removed. I Hate Canton plans to post some more of them later, but due to our minor, but annoying computer problems are still sorting through them.

For the moment, we publish this low-as-can-go comment. It appeared under Mayor Healy Urges Officials to Find Ways to Slash Budget written by the fittingly-named cowardbehindascreenname.

The comment has nothing to do with the article it is attached to, but since most comments on the Mammone triple murder were disabled, it "had" to go somewhere, under the rules of Let No Tragedy Go Unexploited.

Hey Cirelli--how many different names a day are you going to use. BTY aren't you related to James Mammone? When are you scheduled to go off the hook?

Using the brutal murders of two small children and their grandmother by the children's father to pursue a bizarre personal vendetta with a longtime poster and member of a respected Canton political family is vile and despicable--if not crazy. What anonymous cowardbehindascreenname hoped to gain, outside of some mental masturbatory satisfaction is a mystery. It can't be sympathy.

We know the the Repository is attempting to dig up the stink weeds that infest the paper, and trust that this specific weed will never sprout again. Of course, it will pop up again like the noxious weed it is, under a different name.

Sunday, May 10, 2009

More from Don Cirelli


Don Cirelli sent the following comment after I Hate Canton posted his Letter the Repository Doesn't Want You to See. We thought it was so good that we didn't want it to get lost in our comments, so we are posting it here. His post further explicates "customer service" problems with the Repository regarding abuse by anonymous posters.


Thank you, for posting my letter to the Rep. I knew Gauger wouldn't print it, but I still wanted to make it clear to him my feelings about the shameful manner in which he is running that website.

After I sent this letter, I recieved a very curt response from Jeff Gauger, simply stating "I do not intend to print this letter".

I replied to Mr. Gauger "Of course you don't, Jeff. I didn't libel anyone and I didn't use a phony name. Perhaps if I had, it would wind up on the front page of the Rep. Nevertheless, I am going to the public with this since you are trying to cover your ass".

I had a little debate with someone recently about the use of fictitious pen names in cantonrep. The lady I was speaking to felt that pen names might be a good thing, as they shielded the legitimate whistleblower as well as regular commentators from abuse and retaliation.

I see it differently. The only things that thrive in the dark are worms, mushrooms and cockroaches. And that is exactly what we are now witnessing in the
"new" abuser-friendly cantonrep comment forum.

Originally, commentators were required to use their real names. The Rep also printed their email addresses alongside of their names when their commentary appeared in cantonrep. Of course, political conversation is always rough and tumble, and it tends to get heated and even rancorous at times. But under the original rules of cantonrep, people seemed to keep a check on the more obnoxious and abusive comments they might make, as they knew they were personally accountable for their comments.

There was at least one commentator at that time who decided he wanted to "kick it up a notch". At first he used his real name. He wound up getting booted from cantonrep because he had challenged a fellow reader to a physical altercation. But it wasn't long before this commentator re-appeared in that forum, only this time under a pen name. He was easily recognizable, however, by his very distinctive writing style and repeated use of certain phrases, such as "sick and twisted" - one of his favorite references to liberals.

This man felt free to address his fellow readers in the most egregious terms possible because he wasn't using his real name. The funny thing was, his obnoxious, hateful comments would stick to that board like glue. Anyone who challenged him, however, would have their own rebuttals booted in a New York minute. It seemed as if this particular abuser had some kind of personal connection with the cantonrep editors that gave him carte blanche to spew his bile at anyone he pleased. Anyone who defended themselves, however, were not privy to the same type of favored treatment. Once, this man's comments ever appeared in a different color and type style on the cantonrep board. That only confirmed, in my mind, that the editors had indeed granted this commentator a certain privilege that was not given to the other commentators. I think the Rep actually likes this kind of abusive behavior because it draws people in to see the freak show, hence it enhances their numbers (and revenue).

Despite numerous complaints by myself and others about this situation, the abusive commentator would stay on the board year after year, switching to a new pen name after his previous moniker was finally booted from the board.

So you can see why I don't buy these editorials that Mr. Gauger has written in the past about how he is supposedly perturbed and saddened by the loss of civility on cantonrep. I believe that is so much lip service and nothing else.

If Mr. Gauger wanted a return to civility, the worst thing he could have done is allow commentators to use pen names. That only added fuel to the fire and allowed the most uncivil people of all to feel entitled to abuse with impunity. And that is what we got. Cantonrep is now have to racists, bigots, and haters of all stripes. It is literally no holds barred now.

And it was only a matter of time before those who already felt entitled would go even further, to the point of outright libel. At least five actionable comments were made in the space of one week. I will not share the names that were mentioned in those comments, as I don't want to repeat the libel.

It is clear that the person or persons who uttered these slanderous statements feared no repercussions of any sort, legal or otherwise. The Repository has enabled their slander by making it possible for any malicious individual to register with their site anonymously and then to post their bilge anonymously. Mr. Gauger has abdicated any claim to journalistic ethics, at least as far as cantonrep is concerned. He may be the man in charge at the Rep, but he is obviously not in charge of his website. The anonymous commentator really calls the shots on that forum.

Saturday, May 9, 2009

The Letter the Canton Repository Doesn't Want You to See--A Letter to the Editor from Don Cirelli

Today it is our pleasure to print the letter the Rep refuses to publish--a letter from long-time Rep commenter Don Cirelli taking the paper to task for allowing its online edition to become dog box for anonymous posters practicing character assassination for the fun of it. A few hours after the letter was sent, Cirelli received an email from Rep editor Jeff Gauger informing him the Rep did not intend to publish it.

Cirelli's experience, as documented in his letter, illustrates the disregard the current Rep management holds toward its readership. Spirited discussions and even flame wars are tolerable and can even by fun. Accusing individuals of criminals acts and worse, from behind a veil of anonymity is not. The number of people who have stopped reading "comments" or even the Repository is unknown, but it's no mystery why the smears don't make it into the print edition.

Here is he letter the Rep doesn't want you to read:

As a daily reader of your paper and participant in your cantonrep online comments section, I am greatly perturbed by an abusive situation that has been allowed to go on ever since you permitted people to us pen names in your online forum. At least five times this past week, some person, or persons have committed outright libel in the comments section.

First, someone insinuated that a local politico stole money from a neighborhood association. I found out who made the comment and forwarded her identity to the individual she slandered. Then, someone implied that another local officeholder had stolen money from his employer. As if that wasn't enough slander for this individual to commit, he (or she) then implied (falsely) that I had been fired from my job because of criminal behavior.

That particular attack caused me to call Allen Schulman to discuss a possible lawsuit against this individual. Now, the latest tidbit from this rotten slanderer is the claim that a local judge indulged in illegal drugs in the 1970s, including LSD. I am sick to death of these phony names being used as a shield for malicious individuals to hide behind as they commit outright libel against people in this community. Mr. Gauger -please don't ever write another editorial discussing the "professional ethics" of your business. Not while you are allowing your news medium to used as a vehicle to destroy the reputations of local citizens.

I have spoken to you and your publisher about this by phone. You hung up on me, and your publisher was as casual and non-chalant about this situation as he could possibly be. Your attitude about this is shameful.

Don Cirelli

Thursday, May 7, 2009

Octopuppet Never Sleeps

NOTE: As about 10 AM, Octopuppet's comments were pulled. Maybe somebody at the Rep got a clue that' it's not cool to accuse people she doesn't like of drug dealing and being gay?

It's 9:00 AM. Do you know where your Octopuppet is?

She's at her keyboard!

Not content with accusing Don Cirelli of (apparently on-the-job) sexual misconduct and ties to NAMBLA (remarks removed) she's up bright and early this morning typing her little black heart out.

It's too early in the day yet to bestow any awards on Octopuppet. Posting under at least 40 names and counting, we're sure by the end of the day OP can come up with some better ones than these.

While we wait, though, here's a sample of her early morning thoughts to sip your tea by:

Letters: Stark County Takes Great Pride in its Legal Heritage
flowerchild (posted approx 3:45 AM)
Yep--Ohio Dude--that's Mary Parker. Banging a bible in one hand and toting a gun in the other. She reminds me of old Sheriff Berans. Mary for your info I passed menopause years ago. No problems. No wonder you are so short and bald. Every time you splash that holy water on your head your hair melts off just a little more. The devils servant, Mary V. V for venom.

Mary and Don follow people around the comments just to insult them. Both have no life but Cantonrep.com. They must go to the same haridresser, I think it is Baldy's beauty shop.

Isn't it amazing that all these wefare people have computers, cell phones, swimming pools. The whole nine yeards. Hey man working is overrated. Selll dugs and live off the dole. That is the true key to success. Be a big fish in a very small bowl. lol

Gay Couples at Prom is Old News Thanks to '89 Lawsuit
Cantonvoter
Hey Don Cirelli--don't you wish this would have been allowed when you were in High School?

I Hate Canton offers our congrats to Scapegoat for a rousing retort to flowerchild's hizzy fit:

scapegoat:
flowerchild .....if you don't like the opions that people have about you why don't you do something to improve yourself.

Have you considered suing your brains for nonsupport? Perhaps Judge James could introduce you to one of his fine lawyers.

Thursday, April 16, 2009

A Note on "LeVar Burton"

Yesterday, octopuppet "LeVar Burton" posted a spurious claim against Don Cirelli. which included personal information about Mr. Cirelli and accused him of serious illegal activities. The post appeared on the In defense of posting anonymous comments on web sites page.

I Hate Canton has archived the thread but will not repost the comment here. This post, in I Hate Canton's opinion, is actionable, though we do not know how a complaint can be pursued due to anonymity standards at the Rep and its seeming inability and disinterest in controlling vicious commenters.

Although we hope this comment has banned "LeVar" from posting further, we also know that it will do no good since "he" already posts under at least a dozen names. The sick part of this is that even if everyone ignored octopuppet's comments (it's been tried) , they would continue with the octos arguing among themselves and dragging in uninformed, newbie and fed-up regular posters.

On a related note, when it rains, it pours. All of the comments on Hob Nob's neighbors pressing city to act (see yesterday's I Hate Canton) have been removed. Oddly, while some of those comments were obnoxious, they did not, with the exception of the comment we posted, really warrant removal, at least by current Rep standards and practice. And why the entire thread? Because the posts attacked a business and not individuals?

Village Idiot of the Day, April 15, 2009: "gusknows"

Due to pressing issues I Hate Canton was unable to make the big decision on Tuesday's Daily Village Idiot Award. There are so many idiots (and their progeny) to choose from and sometimes not the time to separate the chaff from the chaff.

Pressing issues still live, so we will make this short and sweet: Wednesday's Daily Village Idiot Award goes to "gusknows" for his astute observations on the conundrum of identity in In defense of posting anonymous comments on websites. We commend "gusknows" for having the courage to rebel against Descartes' (right) "thinking substance" theory on the pages of the Rep.

Unfortunately, the rebellion is a day late and a dollar short in light of the work of Lacan, Althusser, and Foucault (below left) and other deconstructionists, not to mention Marx. But let's not go there. This is, after all, I Hate Canton, not Folie et déraison: Histoire de la folie à l'âge classique aka Madness and Civilization though we see plenty of madness and not much civilization in the pages of the Rep lately.

"gusknows" spurred a debate on the meaning of identity with the following short essay, in which he questions the identity of known persons with a special concern for the identity angst of Don Cirelli, but his compassion is for us all. No matter who we are, no matter how well-known we are, no matter who knows us, we are all, in the end, anonymous.

(spelling, paragraphing, etc. as posted)

gusknows
doncirelli,
You can think whatever you want, because you have proven my point. Alot of people on here including you have the dillusion that if they post a screen name that could be an actual person that makes there opinions matter more, and they mean squat, just like my posts or anyone elses. They are just opinions by anonymus people using a screen name, if a person wants to portray someone by putting a name of a person up, fine, but in the end no matter how much they cry or whine claiming to actually be that person they are still just an anonymus person behind a screen name. When you and others that have a screen name that could be an actual person question peoples comments because their screen name does not match a real name does not give you any right to queston, because no matter how much you try to portray an actual person with a screen name that could be an exact person you are NOT you are just an anonymus person who could choose any screen name you want.

To all of those people who use screen names that could be actual people, before you try and question a comment because of a screen name you are attempting to portray yourself as superior to others, and that is what upsets some on here, because you are just like anyone else an anonymus person with a screen name that anyone could choose.

Followed by:

gusknows
I know this does not cover all people but to the ones that use a screen name that matches that of an actual persons name.
'Do you think you are superior over others because you use a screen name that matches an actual persons name??'

Followed by:

gusknows
doncirelli,
Obviously you dont realize it when you do it, everytime you make a comment such as, 'if people didnt hide behind a screen name they wouldnt say things such as.....' That is exactly what you are trying to portray, and its not just you doncirelli, there are a few others who do it often. When you see someone make a comment you disagree with or dont like say something such as 'I wonder if that person would say that to their face' or something to that extent. When you or anyone who try to portray themselves as an actual person by using a certain screen name and questioning ANYONES comments because of their screen name is attempting to make the claim they are superior because of what your screen name is. In the end we are all just anonymus people who can post whatever screen name we choose, therefore we are all equal no matter how much someone tries to make claim of being a certain individual.
Oh by the way, 'Am I superior over others? Generally, no' Generally no? so you do think at times you are superior, that again is what is called 'Dillusions of granduer'

Followed by

gusknows
This is a fantastic thread. Everyone is able to see how some people think their opinion matters more than others. What is funny is reading the comments of some who just cant except the fact that no matter what they claim or what they say they are nothing more than an anonymus person using whatever screen name they want just like everyone else.


And, as of this posting, closing with

gusknows
I personaly have no problem with anyone posting differing opinions or questioning comments. But as soon as someone questions someones comments because of a screen name they are trying to put the perception out that because of their own screen name they are better than others. And the people who post with what could be an actual screen name probaly dont realize but they are saying it about EVERY person by just questioning 1. Many people who are on here and use screen names that might not be an actual person are tired of having a select few continually question a persons comments because they do not use a screen name that matches an actual person. doncirelli and mary v parker, you both have made comments that I agree with and some I disagree with in the past and currently, (and there are many others that post with a screen name of an actual person, I am not singling out you 2 for any particular reason other than you are commenting on this thread.) but when you question anyones comments because of their screen name you are questioning EVERYONES comments because of their screen name and are maybe unintentionaly but putting out a perception that you are better than people who do not have a screen name of an actual person. How can anyone expect people to respect their comments when things they say show, maybe unintentionaly, that they dont respect others.
If people dont question comments because of whatever screen name they choose they show respect to all, when someone questions comments because of the screen name they choose they show disrespect or no respect to all because EVERYONE on here is just an anonymus person posting under whatever screen name they chose.

I don't know about you, but I Hate Canton is thrilled that such intellectually challenging conversations exposing the current existential Meaning of Man are now available to the great unwashed readers of the Canton Repository. Who needs to read Camus or watch New Wave cinema when we have "gusknows" on our side?

I Hate Canton gives genuine props to D Carey for his/her reaction to this identity crisis and for nailing "gusknows" and the octopuppets inhabiting the Rep. A sincere thank you!

D Carey
How terribly sad. Personalities no deeper than a game. People living for nothing but a win. The quality of another person's character means nothing. Respect, honesty, truth, intelligence, compassion - all meaningless. It's just points and scores for some people. Whatever has gotten into the water to turn so many people into sociopaths, I hope they cut off the supply soon. To the real people in the comments section - good luck to us all. We're going to need it.

As a side note, last night someone posing as Mary Parker, but not Mary Parker, posted under her name to make a point at how easy it is to fake identity on the Rep. If true, then the Rep has a bigger problem than just village idiots.